The night I was anointed, I was taken through a series of visions of which, I had no understanding at the time.
I will open this article by describing one of those visions.
In the power of Holy Spirit, I was taken along with an angel in flight.
In the midst of the expanse of the heavens, we descended toward the earth.
There was a boundary dividing the clear crisp heavens, from the air that encircled the earth.
As we broke through that boundary, I entered air that seemed, not breathable. It was hot, putrid, and heavy with smoke. I begged my angel guide to remove me, as I felt I would perish at breathing it. He told me that I must be shown, what I was about to witness.
As we descended toward the earth, I noticed that not only was the dim air filled with smoke....
all the sky above us was thick smoke and gloom. Really, the sky above us could not be seen through the thick billowing smoke clouds above. None of the heavenly luminaries could be seen...no sun, moon, or stars.
As I saw the ground of the earth below, it mirrored the sky. The earth was fine, dry, grey dust. Not one blade of grass could be seen in the dimly lit, endless plain of lifeless ash. I again begged the angel for relief from breathing the choking air. He then made it just bearable for me.
Descending even closer to the surface of the earth, I noticed far down below, on the ground; two long lines. As we lowered, I could discern that these two lines were made of people.
We lowered down to fly over them, in the direction that they were all facing. It seemed we flew over these lines for a long time...impressing me that the number of people on these lines, was great!
I turned to my angelic guide and asked him, "Where are they all going?"
"I will show you", was his reply.
As we finally approached the front of the lines, we lowered. He drew me in close, to take in the images, though my feet did not touch the ground.
I saw four great angels, fearfully strong and large; standing at the four corners of a stone, tall platform.
The platform had a set of stone steps, leading up to it's top surface.
I saw a great angel approach the first person in line. All the people on line seemed unaware of where they were....ignoring the angels, the air, or the activity before them.
Even when the first person in line was taken by the arm and lead by the angel toward the platform...he seemed totally unaware of all of it....looking back, continuing to converse with those still on line.
I felt greatly confused as to what all this could mean. I wondered how these people could seem so unaware of their surroundings.
My attention turned to where the angel was guiding the man to, as the angel ushered him to the top of the platform. My guide raised me, so that I was over the platform and could look down to observe what unfolded.
The angel escorted the man to the center of the platform, where I saw what looked like a round pit, about four foot in diameter; filled with a large turning screw.
Still oblivious to his circumstances, the angel lowered the man's feet into the pit. As the large turning screw caught his feet, it began to pull him down. Horror and panic gripped both me and the victim at once! Suddenly, he became aware of his ensnarement, screaming out. He was completely crushed and engulfed, drowned while descending into his own rising blood. All those on the line were deaf to his screams.
In horror I watched as the Angel went to the next one on the front of the line...again to guide them to their execution. No one in that place was aware of the situation, except me, my angelic guide, and the angels who manned the instrument of death.
I watched in horror as one after another, these seemingly deaf and blind victims were brought to their gory deaths. They continued to laugh and converse, even while their feet were being lowered. Yet each and every one awoke to awareness, just before their end...some with fear, but most, with indignant rage.
The blood from these was pouring forth into all the land around that place. Yet those drawing close on line, did not notice the blood that surrounded their legs.
Finally, after expressing my pleading horror to my angelic guide, I begged him to let my feet touch the ground, that I might warn those on this line.
He told me, "You are not permitted to be in this place. You were brought here only to see. It is now time to leave".
Without considering my will, he once again flew me over along the line of people....
only this time, away from their destination.
As I took in the great number of people, all destined for that horrific death, I begged my guide to let me down to warn them. So many were beneath us, as we quickly flew along over their heads. We were passing by so many. Yet my guide told me I must wait until we were a safer distance from the terrible platform area, before I could be let down.
The thousands we had to pass and abandon, caused me to express my great grief to my guide. Very gradually, we lowered toward the earth, until finally my feet touched the ground. In panic, I turned to the guide...
"Help me! Someone has to warn them!" I called to him.
He motioned with his arm toward the lines...."Go ahead...but hurry...your time is short. You may only work from this point, away from the wine-press....not toward it."
To my anguish, it seemed that every person on the line was deaf and blind. They could see and hear one another, but not me! No one seemed to see me. No one seemed to be able to hear my calls. I approached a woman with children. Though she was also deaf and blind to my presence, I grabbed her and shook her to wake her up to my presence. Finally gaining recognition by looking at me, she responded with anger...punching me in the face.
I realized that this deaf and blind spell could not be broken...
Yet, ...in the distance, I noticed one person that seemed to see and hear me, with a curious look on his face.
My heart leaped to realize that for some reason, a few, although unaware of where the lines lead; were not deaf and blind to me!
Realizing that this number was few, and that there may be great distances between these ones...I started to run as fast as I could...all the while screaming, "Can anyone hear me?"
Here and there came back the reply, "I can!"
I would run up to these ones, telling them, "Get off this line! To remain upon it means certain death!"
With my limited time in mind, as well as the great number there... I ran screaming along the side of the line, running and calling as fast and as loud as I could.
One of the women that heard and gladly got off the line, got back on again! After this, when I approached her, she could no longer hear, see, or recognize me. I now added to my message, "Do not get back on the line, or you will die!"
Worried that others might get back on the line, I asked my guide to watch over these ones who listened, while I ran to warn others.
He showed me another angel near us, and said, "This one will take care of them. Send them to him."
After I had successfully warned a small group of people, my guide told me that it was time to go.
I begged him, "But there are so many. Please give me more time!"
He looked into my eyes and exclaimed sternly, "You must leave this place! You are no longer permitted to be here!"
As he yanked me by the hair from the surface of the ground and we rose up into the air; I could see that the other angel also rose up, taking with him the saved ones.
We continued to rise, higher and higher, until suddenly we broke through the boundary that divided this choking air, from the clear crisp air of the heavens above. As soon as we were out, I could once again see the stars. I was then taken to the next vision.
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Once I began my Bible study with "Jehovah's Witnesses", I integrated what I was learning with what Yhwh's vision had shown me. My initial interpretation, was that this vision of execution was for all those of the world, who did not know Yhwh. I thought this scene was a parallel to what the Witnesses taught about the war of Armageddon, where Jehovah would execute the inhabitants of Satan's wicked world.
In learning about this wine-press from the "Revelation Climax" book, I recently examined that interpretation alongside the Greek interlinear of the referenced scriptures. What I found may shock you!
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FIRST CONTINUATION
The Bible's account of the Winepress of Yhwh's God's wrath, is found in the book of Revelation, in both chapters 14 & 19.
There are also references to it in the Hebrew scriptures.
I will list them here:
Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs.
Rev.19:15,16
15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
It is noteworthy that here we see that Jesus is seen as striking the nations with the sharp sword of his mouth (Rev.19:21), as well as shepherding the nations with a rod of iron. Note that separate from this, is the treading of the winepress. "He treads too", meaning, he also, in addition to his acts toward the nations; treads this winepress of God's anger and wrath.
To be stricken and to be shepherded, is not the same as to be crushed to death.
This sword protruding from Jesus' mouth, is defined in the scriptures as Yhwh's Word.
Heb.4:12,13:
"12 For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart. 13 And there is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting."
Eph.6:17...
:and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word"
It would seem therefore, that the nations will be firmly guided at the fulfillment of this vision; with no leeway for, or tolerance of, deviation. To rebel against this firm guidance, would mean death.
Rev.2:26,27:
"26 And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, the same as I have received from my Father".
Not so, those destined for the winepress.
We are told that this winepress is for those whom God is enraged with, to the point of dispensing His wrath. There is no doubt what the outcome is for these. We are told "and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses".
What is the identity of those cast into this fearsome winepress?
At Rev.14:9,10,11; the third angel tells us:
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
We see here that the fate of the "winepress",
("drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath"),
is specifically for those who "worship" the "wild beast". Verse 10 depicts that these will drink from the cup of the wine of God's anger...the wine pressed from His winepress.... their own blood (Isa.49:26). Yes, their own blood will come upon their own heads (Ezek.18:12,13). I saw this befall those crushed in God's winepress...drowned and gulping, in their own blood from His cup of wrath.
Another clue is given us as to the identity of these...
verse 11 above read:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
This is a parallel to Rev.20:10,15; 13:8 (please read these to see the connection).
Clearly and consistently, we learn that the winepress is for those who worship the wildbeast or are otherwise identified with it, and it's false prophet.
We see that it is Jesus, who dispenses all these sentences.
As the primary victim of this wicked sort, he has earned this right.
If not the nations, who then is consigned to the winepress of God's wrath?
We are also told in the verses above, that they are the "vine of the earth", and that this execution takes place "outside the City" (Rev.14:19,20).
So, it is the "vine of the earth" that worships the wild beast.
These idolaters are executed, "outside the City".
Although we already see a "false prophet" associated with this guilt and execution (Rev.20:10); what does it mean that they are killed "outside the city"?
The execution of TRUE prophets, was carried out according to the following words of Jesus...
Luke 13:33
’ 33 Nevertheless, I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the following day, because it is not admissible for a prophet to be destroyed outside of Jerusalem."
We see here that true prophets, such as Christ, were destroyed inside the City (Jerusalem), by the judges within God's own people (Matt.23:37,38). By telling us that this winepress is troden outside the city, these worshipers of the wild beast are associated with the city of Jerusalem, but they are not true prophets.
Though the scriptures have already told us that this prophet is false, we are here being told that this prophet is in association with the "city" Jerusalem, though it is not killed in the manner of a true prophet.
The wine-press is for all those who follow this false prophet, and for those who receive the mark of slavery to it's wild beast on their thinking (foreheads), and let it direct their deeds (right hand). (Rev.13:16; Eze.14:10). Such ones are not "marked" as slaves of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.22:4,3; 7:3; 14:1), but rather, slaves of the Beast (Rev.13:16,8).
At Luke 13:33 cited above, here Jesus was speaking of his death at the hands of the religious leaders (Matt.16:21).
The wild beast also has a religious leader...
3 And he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns." (Rev.17:3)
Do you note who "rides" this wild beast?
(when we ride an animal, we use it and exert control over it)
Yes, this wild beast is serving the Mother of the Harlots. She and her Harlot daughters are it's religious leaders (Rev.17:5; Eze.16:44).
Yet as we have read, this beast has it's own authority over the vine of the earth...
8 The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world." Rev.17:8
And as we know, the beast has been given the power to "kill" any who do not admire and obey it...
"14 And it (false prophet/two horned beast/wormwood) misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. 15 And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast." Rev.13:14,15 (Also Rev.11:7)
The consequence of worshipping this wild beast?
" 8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world." Rev.13:8
Yes, like the "vine of the earth" who are cast into the winepress,
"all those who dwell on the earth" will also face death... once again for their supportive association and obedience to the wild beast and its religious leadership as depicted by the two horned beast.
This two horned beast/false prophet (Rev.13:11,14; 19:20), gives authority to the wild beast (Rev.13:12,15; 19:20). This two horned beast is therefore associated with the Mother of the Harlots/Harlot daughters who rides the wild beast, directing and empowering it with lethal authority to kill any dissenters.
In speaking of the evil influence and power of these tools of Satan (Rev.13:4),
I will open this article by describing one of those visions.
In the power of Holy Spirit, I was taken along with an angel in flight.
In the midst of the expanse of the heavens, we descended toward the earth.
There was a boundary dividing the clear crisp heavens, from the air that encircled the earth.
As we broke through that boundary, I entered air that seemed, not breathable. It was hot, putrid, and heavy with smoke. I begged my angel guide to remove me, as I felt I would perish at breathing it. He told me that I must be shown, what I was about to witness.
As we descended toward the earth, I noticed that not only was the dim air filled with smoke....
all the sky above us was thick smoke and gloom. Really, the sky above us could not be seen through the thick billowing smoke clouds above. None of the heavenly luminaries could be seen...no sun, moon, or stars.
As I saw the ground of the earth below, it mirrored the sky. The earth was fine, dry, grey dust. Not one blade of grass could be seen in the dimly lit, endless plain of lifeless ash. I again begged the angel for relief from breathing the choking air. He then made it just bearable for me.
Descending even closer to the surface of the earth, I noticed far down below, on the ground; two long lines. As we lowered, I could discern that these two lines were made of people.
We lowered down to fly over them, in the direction that they were all facing. It seemed we flew over these lines for a long time...impressing me that the number of people on these lines, was great!
I turned to my angelic guide and asked him, "Where are they all going?"
"I will show you", was his reply.
As we finally approached the front of the lines, we lowered. He drew me in close, to take in the images, though my feet did not touch the ground.
I saw four great angels, fearfully strong and large; standing at the four corners of a stone, tall platform.
The platform had a set of stone steps, leading up to it's top surface.
I saw a great angel approach the first person in line. All the people on line seemed unaware of where they were....ignoring the angels, the air, or the activity before them.
Even when the first person in line was taken by the arm and lead by the angel toward the platform...he seemed totally unaware of all of it....looking back, continuing to converse with those still on line.
I felt greatly confused as to what all this could mean. I wondered how these people could seem so unaware of their surroundings.
My attention turned to where the angel was guiding the man to, as the angel ushered him to the top of the platform. My guide raised me, so that I was over the platform and could look down to observe what unfolded.
The angel escorted the man to the center of the platform, where I saw what looked like a round pit, about four foot in diameter; filled with a large turning screw.
Still oblivious to his circumstances, the angel lowered the man's feet into the pit. As the large turning screw caught his feet, it began to pull him down. Horror and panic gripped both me and the victim at once! Suddenly, he became aware of his ensnarement, screaming out. He was completely crushed and engulfed, drowned while descending into his own rising blood. All those on the line were deaf to his screams.
In horror I watched as the Angel went to the next one on the front of the line...again to guide them to their execution. No one in that place was aware of the situation, except me, my angelic guide, and the angels who manned the instrument of death.
I watched in horror as one after another, these seemingly deaf and blind victims were brought to their gory deaths. They continued to laugh and converse, even while their feet were being lowered. Yet each and every one awoke to awareness, just before their end...some with fear, but most, with indignant rage.
The blood from these was pouring forth into all the land around that place. Yet those drawing close on line, did not notice the blood that surrounded their legs.
Finally, after expressing my pleading horror to my angelic guide, I begged him to let my feet touch the ground, that I might warn those on this line.
He told me, "You are not permitted to be in this place. You were brought here only to see. It is now time to leave".
Without considering my will, he once again flew me over along the line of people....
only this time, away from their destination.
As I took in the great number of people, all destined for that horrific death, I begged my guide to let me down to warn them. So many were beneath us, as we quickly flew along over their heads. We were passing by so many. Yet my guide told me I must wait until we were a safer distance from the terrible platform area, before I could be let down.
The thousands we had to pass and abandon, caused me to express my great grief to my guide. Very gradually, we lowered toward the earth, until finally my feet touched the ground. In panic, I turned to the guide...
"Help me! Someone has to warn them!" I called to him.
He motioned with his arm toward the lines...."Go ahead...but hurry...your time is short. You may only work from this point, away from the wine-press....not toward it."
To my anguish, it seemed that every person on the line was deaf and blind. They could see and hear one another, but not me! No one seemed to see me. No one seemed to be able to hear my calls. I approached a woman with children. Though she was also deaf and blind to my presence, I grabbed her and shook her to wake her up to my presence. Finally gaining recognition by looking at me, she responded with anger...punching me in the face.
I realized that this deaf and blind spell could not be broken...
Yet, ...in the distance, I noticed one person that seemed to see and hear me, with a curious look on his face.
My heart leaped to realize that for some reason, a few, although unaware of where the lines lead; were not deaf and blind to me!
Realizing that this number was few, and that there may be great distances between these ones...I started to run as fast as I could...all the while screaming, "Can anyone hear me?"
Here and there came back the reply, "I can!"
I would run up to these ones, telling them, "Get off this line! To remain upon it means certain death!"
With my limited time in mind, as well as the great number there... I ran screaming along the side of the line, running and calling as fast and as loud as I could.
One of the women that heard and gladly got off the line, got back on again! After this, when I approached her, she could no longer hear, see, or recognize me. I now added to my message, "Do not get back on the line, or you will die!"
Worried that others might get back on the line, I asked my guide to watch over these ones who listened, while I ran to warn others.
He showed me another angel near us, and said, "This one will take care of them. Send them to him."
After I had successfully warned a small group of people, my guide told me that it was time to go.
I begged him, "But there are so many. Please give me more time!"
He looked into my eyes and exclaimed sternly, "You must leave this place! You are no longer permitted to be here!"
As he yanked me by the hair from the surface of the ground and we rose up into the air; I could see that the other angel also rose up, taking with him the saved ones.
We continued to rise, higher and higher, until suddenly we broke through the boundary that divided this choking air, from the clear crisp air of the heavens above. As soon as we were out, I could once again see the stars. I was then taken to the next vision.
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Once I began my Bible study with "Jehovah's Witnesses", I integrated what I was learning with what Yhwh's vision had shown me. My initial interpretation, was that this vision of execution was for all those of the world, who did not know Yhwh. I thought this scene was a parallel to what the Witnesses taught about the war of Armageddon, where Jehovah would execute the inhabitants of Satan's wicked world.
In learning about this wine-press from the "Revelation Climax" book, I recently examined that interpretation alongside the Greek interlinear of the referenced scriptures. What I found may shock you!
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FIRST CONTINUATION
The Bible's account of the Winepress of Yhwh's God's wrath, is found in the book of Revelation, in both chapters 14 & 19.
There are also references to it in the Hebrew scriptures.
I will list them here:
Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs.
Rev.19:15,16
15 And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
It is noteworthy that here we see that Jesus is seen as striking the nations with the sharp sword of his mouth (Rev.19:21), as well as shepherding the nations with a rod of iron. Note that separate from this, is the treading of the winepress. "He treads too", meaning, he also, in addition to his acts toward the nations; treads this winepress of God's anger and wrath.
To be stricken and to be shepherded, is not the same as to be crushed to death.
This sword protruding from Jesus' mouth, is defined in the scriptures as Yhwh's Word.
Heb.4:12,13:
"12 For the word of God is alive and exerts power and is sharper than any two-edged sword and pierces even to the dividing of soul and spirit, and of joints and [their] marrow, and [is] able to discern thoughts and intentions of [the] heart. 13 And there is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting."
Eph.6:17...
:and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word"
It would seem therefore, that the nations will be firmly guided at the fulfillment of this vision; with no leeway for, or tolerance of, deviation. To rebel against this firm guidance, would mean death.
Rev.2:26,27:
"26 And to him that conquers and observes my deeds down to the end I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he shall shepherd the people with an iron rod so that they will be broken to pieces like clay vessels, the same as I have received from my Father".
Not so, those destined for the winepress.
We are told that this winepress is for those whom God is enraged with, to the point of dispensing His wrath. There is no doubt what the outcome is for these. We are told "and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses".
What is the identity of those cast into this fearsome winepress?
At Rev.14:9,10,11; the third angel tells us:
9 And another angel, a third, followed them, saying in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the wild beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead or upon his hand, 10 he will also drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath, and he shall be tormented with fire and sulphur in the sight of the holy angels and in the sight of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
We see here that the fate of the "winepress",
("drink of the wine of the anger of God that is poured out undiluted into the cup of his wrath"),
is specifically for those who "worship" the "wild beast". Verse 10 depicts that these will drink from the cup of the wine of God's anger...the wine pressed from His winepress.... their own blood (Isa.49:26). Yes, their own blood will come upon their own heads (Ezek.18:12,13). I saw this befall those crushed in God's winepress...drowned and gulping, in their own blood from His cup of wrath.
Another clue is given us as to the identity of these...
verse 11 above read:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever, and day and night they have no rest, those who worship the wild beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name."
This is a parallel to Rev.20:10,15; 13:8 (please read these to see the connection).
Clearly and consistently, we learn that the winepress is for those who worship the wildbeast or are otherwise identified with it, and it's false prophet.
We see that it is Jesus, who dispenses all these sentences.
As the primary victim of this wicked sort, he has earned this right.
If not the nations, who then is consigned to the winepress of God's wrath?
We are also told in the verses above, that they are the "vine of the earth", and that this execution takes place "outside the City" (Rev.14:19,20).
So, it is the "vine of the earth" that worships the wild beast.
These idolaters are executed, "outside the City".
Although we already see a "false prophet" associated with this guilt and execution (Rev.20:10); what does it mean that they are killed "outside the city"?
The execution of TRUE prophets, was carried out according to the following words of Jesus...
Luke 13:33
’ 33 Nevertheless, I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the following day, because it is not admissible for a prophet to be destroyed outside of Jerusalem."
We see here that true prophets, such as Christ, were destroyed inside the City (Jerusalem), by the judges within God's own people (Matt.23:37,38). By telling us that this winepress is troden outside the city, these worshipers of the wild beast are associated with the city of Jerusalem, but they are not true prophets.
Though the scriptures have already told us that this prophet is false, we are here being told that this prophet is in association with the "city" Jerusalem, though it is not killed in the manner of a true prophet.
The wine-press is for all those who follow this false prophet, and for those who receive the mark of slavery to it's wild beast on their thinking (foreheads), and let it direct their deeds (right hand). (Rev.13:16; Eze.14:10). Such ones are not "marked" as slaves of God (Deut.11:18; Rev.22:4,3; 7:3; 14:1), but rather, slaves of the Beast (Rev.13:16,8).
At Luke 13:33 cited above, here Jesus was speaking of his death at the hands of the religious leaders (Matt.16:21).
The wild beast also has a religious leader...
3 And he carried me away in [the power of the] spirit into a wilderness. And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns." (Rev.17:3)
Do you note who "rides" this wild beast?
(when we ride an animal, we use it and exert control over it)
Yes, this wild beast is serving the Mother of the Harlots. She and her Harlot daughters are it's religious leaders (Rev.17:5; Eze.16:44).
Yet as we have read, this beast has it's own authority over the vine of the earth...
8 The wild beast that you saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction. And when they see how the wild beast was, but is not, and yet will be present, those who dwell on the earth will wonder admiringly, but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world." Rev.17:8
And as we know, the beast has been given the power to "kill" any who do not admire and obey it...
"14 And it (false prophet/two horned beast/wormwood) misleads those who dwell on the earth, because of the signs that were granted it to perform in the sight of the wild beast, while it tells those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the wild beast that had the sword-stroke and yet revived. 15 And there was granted it to give breath to the image of the wild beast, so that the image of the wild beast should both speak and cause to be killed all those who would not in any way worship the image of the wild beast." Rev.13:14,15 (Also Rev.11:7)
The consequence of worshipping this wild beast?
" 8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world." Rev.13:8
Yes, like the "vine of the earth" who are cast into the winepress,
"all those who dwell on the earth" will also face death... once again for their supportive association and obedience to the wild beast and its religious leadership as depicted by the two horned beast.
This two horned beast/false prophet (Rev.13:11,14; 19:20), gives authority to the wild beast (Rev.13:12,15; 19:20). This two horned beast is therefore associated with the Mother of the Harlots/Harlot daughters who rides the wild beast, directing and empowering it with lethal authority to kill any dissenters.
In speaking of the evil influence and power of these tools of Satan (Rev.13:4),
Rev.13:10 reads:
"10 If anyone [is meant] for captivity, he goes away into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. Here is where it means the endurance and faith of the holy ones."
(see Col.2:8)
"Endurance for the holy ones"? Yes! Imagine. There are only two choices given the last Holy Ones.
Either worship this idolatrous wild beast that is directed by the symbol of Religious Harlotry, or be "killed"!
These must also stand by and watch all those around them being mislead "into captivity" (Col.2:8; Gal.4:3; Eph.4:13-14; 5:6; 1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:14,13; 13:11,15) to the misleading lies of this false prophet and it's deadly beast!
Holy Ones do well here to remember Jesus' words...
"For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life
for me and for the gospel will save it." (Mark 8:35)
Imagine...this beast wants all the "earth" to pledge alliegance and confess union with IT, and not with Christ.
Let us return to Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."
We see another detail in the description of the winepress....
that the blood from the winepress came up as high as the bridle of the horses (Isa.8:8; 30:28).
{What horses, and whose horses, are these? (I will cover this later)}
Now let us look at the distance of the blood.....1,600 furlongs.
This is a representation of the extent of the bloodguilt of those so executed.
These ones being executed are blood-guilty? Why? Who did they kill? And by what means did they kill them?
Remembering that this vine of the earth is in association with the wild beast, the Harlot daughters and the Mother of the Harlots; let us see what this Harlot is accused of...
5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus." Rev.17:5
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her."Rev.18:4-6
3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”Rev.18:3
8 YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU? And I wish indeed that YOU had begun ruling as kings, that we also might rule with YOU as kings. 9 For it seems to me that God has put us the apostles last on exhibition as men appointed to death, because we have become a theatrical spectacle to the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are fools because of Christ, but YOU are discreet in Christ; we are weak, but YOU are strong; YOU are in good repute, but we are in dishonor." 1Cor. 4:8-10
(Paul was speaking of the comparison between the suffering faithful and privileged unfaithful anointed, who took a kingdom of this world. Luke 4:5-7; John 6:15; 18:36).
Yes, this Mother of the Harlots, her Harlot daughters, and their wild beast, are guilty of shedding the "blood of the holy ones and the witnesses of Jesus". No one else is mentioned as being killed by these. What does Yhwh decide is the punishment of these and those who worship them?
. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her." Rev.18:5,6
6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus." Rev.17:6
"And, besides that,YOUR blood of YOUR souls shall I ask back. From the hand of every living creature shall I ask it back; and from the hand of man, from the hand of each one who is his brother, shall I ask back the soul of man." Gen.9:5
10 Why should the nations (uncircumcised/non-anointed/spiritual Gentiles Rom.2:28-29) say: “Where is their God?” Among the nations (non-anointed) let there be known before our eyes
The avenging of the blood of your servants that has been shed." Psalm 79:10 (Rev.19:2; 6:9-10)
"Their own feet keep running to sheer badness, and they are in a hurry to shed innocent blood. Their thoughts are hurtful thoughts; despoiling and breakdown are in their highways. For truth has stumbled even in the public square, and what is straightforward is unable to enter. 15 And the truth proves to be missing, and anyone turning away from badness is being despoiled.
"10 If anyone [is meant] for captivity, he goes away into captivity. If anyone will kill with the sword, he must be killed with the sword. Here is where it means the endurance and faith of the holy ones."
(see Col.2:8)
"Endurance for the holy ones"? Yes! Imagine. There are only two choices given the last Holy Ones.
Either worship this idolatrous wild beast that is directed by the symbol of Religious Harlotry, or be "killed"!
These must also stand by and watch all those around them being mislead "into captivity" (Col.2:8; Gal.4:3; Eph.4:13-14; 5:6; 1Tim. 4:1; Rev.16:14,13; 13:11,15) to the misleading lies of this false prophet and it's deadly beast!
Holy Ones do well here to remember Jesus' words...
4 Moreover, I say to YOU, my friends, Do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more. 5 But I will indicate to YOU whom to fear: Fear him who after killing has authority to throw into Ge·hen´na. Yes, I tell YOU, fear this One. 6 Five sparrows sell for two coins of small value, do they not? Yet not one of them goes forgotten before God. 7 But even the hairs of YOUR heads are all numbered. Have no fear; YOU are worth more than many sparrows.
8 “I say, then, to YOU, Everyone that confesses union with me before men, the Son of man will also confess union with him before the angels of God. 9 But he that disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God." Luke 12:4-9
"For whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life
for me and for the gospel will save it." (Mark 8:35)
Imagine...this beast wants all the "earth" to pledge alliegance and confess union with IT, and not with Christ.
Let us return to Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."
We see another detail in the description of the winepress....
that the blood from the winepress came up as high as the bridle of the horses (Isa.8:8; 30:28).
{What horses, and whose horses, are these? (I will cover this later)}
Now let us look at the distance of the blood.....1,600 furlongs.
This is a representation of the extent of the bloodguilt of those so executed.
These ones being executed are blood-guilty? Why? Who did they kill? And by what means did they kill them?
Remembering that this vine of the earth is in association with the wild beast, the Harlot daughters and the Mother of the Harlots; let us see what this Harlot is accused of...
5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” 6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus." Rev.17:5
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her."Rev.18:4-6
3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”Rev.18:3
8 YOU men already have YOUR fill, do YOU? YOU are rich already, are YOU? YOU have begun ruling as kings without us, have YOU? And I wish indeed that YOU had begun ruling as kings, that we also might rule with YOU as kings. 9 For it seems to me that God has put us the apostles last on exhibition as men appointed to death, because we have become a theatrical spectacle to the world, and to angels, and to men. 10 We are fools because of Christ, but YOU are discreet in Christ; we are weak, but YOU are strong; YOU are in good repute, but we are in dishonor." 1Cor. 4:8-10
(Paul was speaking of the comparison between the suffering faithful and privileged unfaithful anointed, who took a kingdom of this world. Luke 4:5-7; John 6:15; 18:36).
Yes, this Mother of the Harlots, her Harlot daughters, and their wild beast, are guilty of shedding the "blood of the holy ones and the witnesses of Jesus". No one else is mentioned as being killed by these. What does Yhwh decide is the punishment of these and those who worship them?
. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her." Rev.18:5,6
6 And I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the holy ones and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus." Rev.17:6
"And, besides that,YOUR blood of YOUR souls shall I ask back. From the hand of every living creature shall I ask it back; and from the hand of man, from the hand of each one who is his brother, shall I ask back the soul of man." Gen.9:5
10 Why should the nations (uncircumcised/non-anointed/spiritual Gentiles Rom.2:28-29) say: “Where is their God?” Among the nations (non-anointed) let there be known before our eyes
The avenging of the blood of your servants that has been shed." Psalm 79:10 (Rev.19:2; 6:9-10)
"Their own feet keep running to sheer badness, and they are in a hurry to shed innocent blood. Their thoughts are hurtful thoughts; despoiling and breakdown are in their highways. For truth has stumbled even in the public square, and what is straightforward is unable to enter. 15 And the truth proves to be missing, and anyone turning away from badness is being despoiled.
And Yhwh got to see, and it was bad in his eyes that there was no justice. 16And when he saw that there was no man, he began to show himself astonished that there was no one interposing. And his arm proceeded to save for him, and his own righteousness was the thing that supported him. 17 Then he put on righteousness as a coat of mail, and the helmet of salvation upon his head. Furthermore, he put on the garments of vengeance as raiment and enwrapped himself with zeal as if a sleeveless coat." Isa.59:7,14,15,16,17
E´dom, a wilderness of desolate waste it will become, because of the violence to the sons of Judah, in whose land they shed innocent blood. 20 But as for Judah, to time indefinite it will be inhabited, and Jerusalem to generation after generation. 21 And I will consider innocent their blood that I had not considered innocent; and Yhwh will be residing in Zion.” Joel 3:19-21
1 And the word of Yhwh continued to occur to me, saying: 2 “And as for you, O son of man, will you judge, will you judge the bloodguilty city and certainly cause her to know all her detestable things? 3 And you must say, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: “O city that is shedding blood in her midst till her time comes, and that has made dungy idols within herself in order to become unclean,
35 “Therefore, O prostitute (Harlot), hear the word of Yhwh. 36 This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said, ‘For the reason that your lustfulness has been poured out and your private parts are uncovered in your acts of prostitution toward those passionately loving you and toward all your detestable dungy idols ("image" of Wild Beast/Organization), even with the blood of your sons whom you gave to them, 37 therefore here I am collecting together all those passionately loving you toward whom you were pleasurable and all those whom you loved along with all those whom you hated, and I will collect them together against you from all around and uncover your private parts to them, and they must see all your private parts.
38 “‘And I will judge you with the judgments of adulteresses and women shedding blood, and I will give you the blood of rage and jealousy." Eze.16:35-38
4 by your blood that you have shed you have become guilty, and by your dungy idols that you have made you have become unclean. And you bring your days near, and you will come to your years. That is why I must make you an object of reproach to the nations and of jeering to all the lands. 5 The [lands] nearby and those far away from you will jeer you, O you unclean in name, abounding in confusion (Babel). 6 Look!
The chieftains of Israel have proved to be in you, each one [given over] to his arm for the purpose of shedding blood. 7 Father and mother they have treated with contempt in you..
9Outright slanderers have proved to be in you, for the purpose of shedding blood; 12 A bribe they have taken in you for the purpose of shedding blood (Ps.83:5; 2:2; Dan.11:23,31; 8:11 Jer.17:5; Rev.13:11,15; 19:20; Jer.5:30-31,14; Rev.11:5). Interest and usury you have taken, and you violently keep making gain of your companions with defrauding, and me you have forgotten,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Yhwh.
18 “Son of man, to me those of the house of Israel have become as scummy dross. All of them are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace. Much scummy dross, [that of] silver, they have become.
13 “‘And, look! I have struck my hand at your unjust gain that you have made, and over your acts of bloodshed that have proved to be in the midst of you. 14 Will your heart keep enduring or your hands furnish strength in the days when I am taking action toward you? I myself, Yhwh, have spoken and I will take action.
19 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Yhwh has said, ‘For the reason that all of YOU have become as much scummy dross, therefore here I am collecting YOU together into the midst of Jerusalem. 20 As in collecting silver and copper and iron and lead and tin into the midst of a furnace, in order to blow upon it with fire to cause a liquefying, so I shall collect [them] together in my anger and in my rage, and I will blow and cause YOU people to liquefy. 21 And I will bring YOU together and blow upon YOU with the fire of my fury, and YOU must be liquefied in the midst of her. 22 As in the liquefying of silver in the midst of a furnace, so YOU people will be liquefied in the midst of her; and YOU will have to know that I myself, Yhwh, have poured out my rage upon YOU.’”
(2Pet. 3:10,11,12,13)
31 So I shall pour out my denunciation upon them. With the fire of my fury I will exterminate them. Their way I will bring upon their own head,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Yhwh.” Ezekiel 22
8 Because you yourself despoiled many nations, all the remaining ones of [the] peoples will despoil you, because of the shedding of blood of mankind and the violence to [the] earth, [the] town and all those dwelling in it.
12 “‘Woe to the one that is building a city by bloodshed, and that has solidly established a town by unrighteousness! 13 Look! Is it not from Yhwh of armies that peoples will toil on only for the fire, and that national groups will tire themselves out merely for nothing?
15 “‘Woe to the one giving his companions something to drink, attaching [to it] your rage and anger, in order to make [them] drunk, for the purpose of looking upon their parts of shame. (Rev.3:17) 16 You will certainly be satiated with dishonor instead of glory.
Drink also, you yourself, and be considered uncircumcised.
The cup of the right hand of Yhwh will come around to you, and there will be disgrace upon your glory; 17 because the violence [done] to Leb´a·non is what will cover you, and the rapacity upon [the] beasts that terrifies them, because of the shedding of blood of mankind and the violence [done] to [the] earth, the town and all those dwelling in it.18 Of what benefit has a carved image been, when the former of it has carved it, a molten statue, and an instructor in falsehood?" Habakkuk ch.2
"Where" are these deaths of these Holy Ones being carried out?
Rev. 11:8 tells us:
7 And when they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called Sod´om and Egypt, where their Lord was also impaled."
Note that they are killed in the same "place" as Jesus was (Jerusalem Matt.23:37; Luke 13:33), despite the fact that "in a spiritual sense", it is called "Sodom" and "Egypt". Yes, in a spiritual sense, Jerusalem....previously the center of worship for Yhwh....is now as defiled as the godless nations (Jer.9:25-26)....guilty of the blood of the Holy Ones.
We are being told that the Holy Ones who are killed by the wild beast (Rev.11:7; 6:9; Mark 8:35),
are killed in this same place....
a place previously known for being the center of worship for Yhwh, but now blood-guilty before God for the death of His true witnesses, the Holy Ones; just as Jerusalem was guilty of killing Christ (John 16:2) ("Symbolic Death").
Let us again return to Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."
...."for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."...
[The 1,600 is equal to 40X40.
It is readily acknowledged that "4" indicates an all inclusive territory (1-North, 2-South, 3-East, and 4-West Gen.13:14-15)
and 10 indicates 'of the earth'/God's land (Rev.17:12,18).
Rev. 11:8 tells us:
7 And when they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will make war with them and conquer them and kill them. 8 And their corpses will be on the broad way of the great city which is in a spiritual sense called Sod´om and Egypt, where their Lord was also impaled."
Note that they are killed in the same "place" as Jesus was (Jerusalem Matt.23:37; Luke 13:33), despite the fact that "in a spiritual sense", it is called "Sodom" and "Egypt". Yes, in a spiritual sense, Jerusalem....previously the center of worship for Yhwh....is now as defiled as the godless nations (Jer.9:25-26)....guilty of the blood of the Holy Ones.
We are being told that the Holy Ones who are killed by the wild beast (Rev.11:7; 6:9; Mark 8:35),
are killed in this same place....
a place previously known for being the center of worship for Yhwh, but now blood-guilty before God for the death of His true witnesses, the Holy Ones; just as Jerusalem was guilty of killing Christ (John 16:2) ("Symbolic Death").
Let us again return to Rev.14:19,20
” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."
...."for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."...
[The 1,600 is equal to 40X40.
It is readily acknowledged that "4" indicates an all inclusive territory (1-North, 2-South, 3-East, and 4-West Gen.13:14-15)
and 10 indicates 'of the earth'/God's land (Rev.17:12,18).
Twice indicates two witnesses, making it true (John 8:17).
This would be in harmony with Rev.13:8
. "8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world."
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on the earth(10)
not one of them (assured-2)
(4X10)x(4X10)
40X40= 1,600
Can this winepress really be for God's own people?
See Jer.25:
35 And a place to flee to has perished from the shepherds, and a means of escape from the majestic ones of the flock. 36 Listen! The outcry of the shepherds, and the howling of the majestic ones of the flock, for Yhwh is despoiling their pasturage. 37 And the peaceful abiding places have been rendered lifeless because of the burning anger of Yhwh. 38He has left his covert just like a maned young lion, for their land has become an object of astonishment because of the maltreating sword and because of his burning anger.”
13 “Thrust in a sickle, for harvest has grown ripe. Come, descend, for [the] winepress has become full. The press vats actually overflow; for their badness has become abundant. 14 Crowds, crowds are in the low plain of the decision, for the day of Yhwh is near in the low plain of the decision. Joel 3:13
Isa.5:1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Now what about my original reference to the Revelation Climax book, and it's interpretation of these winepress verses in Revelation?
If you have a copy of the book, turn to page 213. There you will find an illustration of their interpretation.
This illustration covers Rev.14, verses 14-19.
Okay, we see that there are four angels....
The first, according to verse 14, is Jesus.
The second is from the "temple sanctuary, and he asks Jesus to harvest the ripened earth.
We are then told that Jesus does this, and the harvest which Jesus chooses from the earth, "was reaped".
Then the third angel comes out of the same temple sanctuary, but he, like Jesus, also has a sickle.
The fourth angel emerges from the altar, and he has the fearsome authority over fire.
(The one having the authority over fire during a harvest, is the one to burn up the chaff, or, what is left over to be destroyed.)
This one calls out to the third angel (with the sickle) and tells him to go ahead and reap what is left over after Jesus' harvest is finished.
According to verse 18, this last reaping is clearly a vine of grapes. Not so the first harvest done by Jesus! It is merely called, "the harvest of the earth", not the vine of grapes.
Now, the Revelation Book's illustration on page 213 depicts this first harvest by Christ, as big juicy grapes.
They depict the second reaping for the winepress as shriveled grapes.
Yet, what does the original Greek say?
This first harvest by Christ is not big juicy grapes at all!
True, the nation of God is scripturally compared to a grapevine
Isa.5:7; Jer.2:21; Lam.1:15; Deut.32:32-39...
Despite the WT's depicting this first harvest by Christ (verse 15) as the juicy grape-like fruitage of God's entire nation, what do the Greek words tells us?
This harvest by Christ is worded as follows:
The end of verse 15 says, "for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe."
The Greek word here is "exhranqh". The definition of it is "IS-DRIED", or, "is dried out".
Hmmm....which harvest is indicated as being ripe, due to it's being thoroughly "dried out"?
Surely, not grapes!
Jesus' harvest is not for the grapes at all.
His interest is in bringing his wheat into his storehouse (Matt.3:12; 13:30). This explains why his harvest is ready when thoroughly dried out. Jesus harvest, is for his wheat-like faithful anointed.
What then about this withered grapevine, depicted by the WT on page 213?
These are described at the end of verse 18...
("gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, because it's grapes have become ripe".)
Lets have a look at that Greek...
The Greek word for "ripe" at the end of verse 18, is "Ekmasan".
This word is defined as "point of full ripeness, mellow, plump" (Joel 3:13).
The flavor of these grapes indicate that they are no longer unripe. No, they are "mellow" and fully mature.
Yes, the full maturation of the works of God's own nation, are fully made manifest, and ready for harvest!
Yet their fruitage is detestable to Yhwh! Why?
They have been fed...NOT by the true vine Christ and his faithful anointed branches (John 15:5); but by Satan's deceptions (Rev.12:16; 13:4,8; Deut.32:33)...grapes, filled with poison. They are following, and sharing in the sins of the Harlot and the Beast, who have "killed" his faithful Sons. All the "vine of the earth" is to be thrown into the winepress, of the anger of God's wrath!
Why the WT has chosen to teach this error in translation of the Greek words of ripeness for each crop, is anyone's guess. But it would seem an intentional diversion from the import of Christ's first harvest of the anointed, the urgency of their being sealed and ready for Christ's return;
as well as a distraction from the fact that God's vineyard nation, has ripened into a crop only worthy of destruction in "the great winepress of the anger of God.".
All you readers know this...
Yhwh is incensed with the "People" bearing his name!
(Jer.9:9,25,26)
Why?
Because they are prophesied as becoming bloodguilty with the blood of his servants;
as they idolize the wild beast and the Harlots that direct it, under their "mother"...the "Covenant of Death"/BTG. (Rev.17:6; 14:8; 18:3; Jer.51:7)
In their admiration and obedience to this wild beast-like organization, "Jehovah's Witnesses" become consensual participants in the "deaths" of the Holy Ones (Rev.13:8; 11:7,10), the "least" of Christ's brothers (Matt.25:40,46). Jehovah holds those who follow the False Prophet, as guilty as the Prophet himself (Eze.14:10).
Yhwh will ask back the blood of his killed Sons, in the Great Winepress of the wrath of God Almighty's Anger! (Rev.6:9; 19:2; 14:9,10,19)
If you belong to "Jehovah's Witnesses", make certain that you do not "share with her in her sins" or you will "receive part of her plagues" (Rev.18:1,2,3,4,5,6).
The time will soon arrive when the last faithful are expelled for refusing to bow down to the wild beast (Rev.13:15; 20:4; 6:9-11; Rom.6:5). Do not remain on the line to the winepress!.
Those who do bow to this beast, do so, because they have been deceived by the False Prophet (Rev.19:20; 8:10,11) and the evil spirits using it (Rev.16:13,14; 12:15; 9:1,11)
For these deceived ones, God's winepress awaits (2Thess. 2:9,10,11,12).
Very soon, the Harlots who ride the Beast, will demand allegiance to themselves and their Beast. (not to Yhwh)[As of date of this edit (8/22/16), this is already noticeably fulfilled, as all who do not reflect full slavery, are being expelled by the "Gentile" elders/counterfeit priests -LINK1; LINK2]. They will use the beast they empower and control, to enforce this demand (Rev.13:12,15; 11:7).
The demand will be that all the "vine of the earth" worship an "image" (Ex.20:4,5; Psalm 78:58; Daniel 3:18; Isa.42:8) of the "Beast".
The False Prophet creates this "image/idol" of the Beast, giving it the breath of spirit-inspiration/image of being directed by God's spirit (Rev.13:14,15)(John 20:22); and telling all it's followers, to worship that "inspired" image. That Image and "spirit"/breath, is a lie
This would be in harmony with Rev.13:8
. "8 And all those who dwell on the earth will worship it; the name of not one of them stands written in the scroll of life of the Lamb who was slaughtered, from the founding of the world."
all(4)
on the earth(10)
not one of them (assured-2)
(4X10)x(4X10)
40X40= 1,600
Can this winepress really be for God's own people?
See Jer.25:
27 “And you must say to them, ‘This is what Yhwh of armies, the God of Israel, has said: “Drink and get drunk and puke and fall so that YOU cannot get up because of the sword that I am sending among YOU.”’ 28 And it must occur that in case they refuse to take the cup out of your hand to drink, you must also say to them, ‘This is what Yhwh of armies has said: “YOU will drink without fail. 29 For, look! it is upon the city upon which my name is called that I am starting off in bringing calamity, and should YOU yourselves in any way go free of punishment?”’
“‘YOU will not go free of punishment, for there is a sword that I am calling against all the inhabitants of the earth,’ is the utterance of Yhwh of armies.
30 “And as for you, you will prophesy to them all these words, and you must say to them, ‘From on high Yhwh himself will roar, and from his holy dwelling he will give forth his voice. Without fail he will roar upon his abiding place. A shout like that of those treading [the winepress] he will sing out against all the inhabitants of the earth.’ (Isa.66:1; Ps.132:7; Lam.2:1; Matt.5:35; Isa.60:13,7; Rev.21:1-3)("world+earth+home")
31 “‘A noise will certainly come clear to the farthest part of the earth, for there is a controversy that Yhwh has with the nations. He must personally put himself in judgment with all flesh. As regards the wicked ones, he must give them to the sword,’ is the utterance of Yhwh.
32 “This is what Yhwh of armies has said, ‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. 33 And those slain by Yhwh will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
34 “Howl, YOU shepherds, and cry out! And wallow about, YOU majestic ones of the flock, because YOUR days for slaughtering and for YOUR scatterings have been fulfilled, and YOU must fall like a desirable vessel! 35 And a place to flee to has perished from the shepherds, and a means of escape from the majestic ones of the flock. 36 Listen! The outcry of the shepherds, and the howling of the majestic ones of the flock, for Yhwh is despoiling their pasturage. 37 And the peaceful abiding places have been rendered lifeless because of the burning anger of Yhwh. 38He has left his covert just like a maned young lion, for their land has become an object of astonishment because of the maltreating sword and because of his burning anger.”
13 “Thrust in a sickle, for harvest has grown ripe. Come, descend, for [the] winepress has become full. The press vats actually overflow; for their badness has become abundant. 14 Crowds, crowds are in the low plain of the decision, for the day of Yhwh is near in the low plain of the decision. Joel 3:13
Isa.5:1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Now what about my original reference to the Revelation Climax book, and it's interpretation of these winepress verses in Revelation?
If you have a copy of the book, turn to page 213. There you will find an illustration of their interpretation.
This illustration covers Rev.14, verses 14-19.
14 And I saw, and, look! a white cloud, and upon the cloud someone seated like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand.
15 And another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary], crying with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.
17 And still another angel emerged from the temple [sanctuary] that is in heaven, he, too, having a sharp sickle.
18 And still another angel emerged from the altar and he had authority over the fire. And he called out with a loud voice to the one that had the sharp sickle, saying: “Put your sharp sickle in and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, because its grapes have become ripe.” 19 And the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and he hurled it into the great winepress of the anger of God.
Okay, we see that there are four angels....
The first, according to verse 14, is Jesus.
The second is from the "temple sanctuary, and he asks Jesus to harvest the ripened earth.
We are then told that Jesus does this, and the harvest which Jesus chooses from the earth, "was reaped".
Then the third angel comes out of the same temple sanctuary, but he, like Jesus, also has a sickle.
The fourth angel emerges from the altar, and he has the fearsome authority over fire.
(The one having the authority over fire during a harvest, is the one to burn up the chaff, or, what is left over to be destroyed.)
This one calls out to the third angel (with the sickle) and tells him to go ahead and reap what is left over after Jesus' harvest is finished.
According to verse 18, this last reaping is clearly a vine of grapes. Not so the first harvest done by Jesus! It is merely called, "the harvest of the earth", not the vine of grapes.
Now, the Revelation Book's illustration on page 213 depicts this first harvest by Christ, as big juicy grapes.
They depict the second reaping for the winepress as shriveled grapes.
Yet, what does the original Greek say?
This first harvest by Christ is not big juicy grapes at all!
True, the nation of God is scripturally compared to a grapevine
Isa.5:7; Jer.2:21; Lam.1:15; Deut.32:32-39...
32 For their vine is from the vine of Sod´om
And from the terraces of Go·mor´rah.
Their grapes are grapes of poison,
Their clusters are bitter.
And from the terraces of Go·mor´rah.
Their grapes are grapes of poison,
Their clusters are bitter.
33 Their wine is the venom of big snakes
And the cruel poison of cobras.
And the cruel poison of cobras.
34 Is it not laid up with me,
With a seal affixed to it in my storehouse?
With a seal affixed to it in my storehouse?
35 Vengeance is mine, and retribution.
At the appointed time their foot will move unsteadily,
For the day of their disaster is near,
And the events in readiness for them do make haste.’
For the day of their disaster is near,
And the events in readiness for them do make haste.’
36 For Yhwh will judge his people
And he will feel regret over his servants,
Because he will see that support has disappeared
And there is only a helpless and worthless one.
And he will feel regret over his servants,
Because he will see that support has disappeared
And there is only a helpless and worthless one.
37 And he will certainly say, ‘Where are their gods,
The rock in whom they sought refuge,
The rock in whom they sought refuge,
38 Who used to eat the fat of their sacrifices,
To drink the wine of their drink offerings?
Let them get up and help YOU.
Let them become a concealment place for YOU.
To drink the wine of their drink offerings?
Let them get up and help YOU.
Let them become a concealment place for YOU.
39 SEE now that I—I am he
And there are no gods together with me."
And there are no gods together with me."
This harvest by Christ is worded as follows:
The end of verse 15 says, "for the harvest of the earth is thoroughly ripe."
The Greek word here is "exhranqh". The definition of it is "IS-DRIED", or, "is dried out".
Hmmm....which harvest is indicated as being ripe, due to it's being thoroughly "dried out"?
Surely, not grapes!
Jesus' harvest is not for the grapes at all.
His interest is in bringing his wheat into his storehouse (Matt.3:12; 13:30). This explains why his harvest is ready when thoroughly dried out. Jesus harvest, is for his wheat-like faithful anointed.
What then about this withered grapevine, depicted by the WT on page 213?
These are described at the end of verse 18...
("gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, because it's grapes have become ripe".)
Lets have a look at that Greek...
The Greek word for "ripe" at the end of verse 18, is "Ekmasan".
This word is defined as "point of full ripeness, mellow, plump" (Joel 3:13).
The flavor of these grapes indicate that they are no longer unripe. No, they are "mellow" and fully mature.
Yes, the full maturation of the works of God's own nation, are fully made manifest, and ready for harvest!
Yet their fruitage is detestable to Yhwh! Why?
They have been fed...NOT by the true vine Christ and his faithful anointed branches (John 15:5); but by Satan's deceptions (Rev.12:16; 13:4,8; Deut.32:33)...grapes, filled with poison. They are following, and sharing in the sins of the Harlot and the Beast, who have "killed" his faithful Sons. All the "vine of the earth" is to be thrown into the winepress, of the anger of God's wrath!
Why the WT has chosen to teach this error in translation of the Greek words of ripeness for each crop, is anyone's guess. But it would seem an intentional diversion from the import of Christ's first harvest of the anointed, the urgency of their being sealed and ready for Christ's return;
as well as a distraction from the fact that God's vineyard nation, has ripened into a crop only worthy of destruction in "the great winepress of the anger of God.".
All you readers know this...
Yhwh is incensed with the "People" bearing his name!
(Jer.9:9,25,26)
Why?
Because they are prophesied as becoming bloodguilty with the blood of his servants;
as they idolize the wild beast and the Harlots that direct it, under their "mother"...the "Covenant of Death"/BTG. (Rev.17:6; 14:8; 18:3; Jer.51:7)
In their admiration and obedience to this wild beast-like organization, "Jehovah's Witnesses" become consensual participants in the "deaths" of the Holy Ones (Rev.13:8; 11:7,10), the "least" of Christ's brothers (Matt.25:40,46). Jehovah holds those who follow the False Prophet, as guilty as the Prophet himself (Eze.14:10).
Yhwh will ask back the blood of his killed Sons, in the Great Winepress of the wrath of God Almighty's Anger! (Rev.6:9; 19:2; 14:9,10,19)
If you belong to "Jehovah's Witnesses", make certain that you do not "share with her in her sins" or you will "receive part of her plagues" (Rev.18:1,2,3,4,5,6).
The time will soon arrive when the last faithful are expelled for refusing to bow down to the wild beast (Rev.13:15; 20:4; 6:9-11; Rom.6:5). Do not remain on the line to the winepress!.
Those who do bow to this beast, do so, because they have been deceived by the False Prophet (Rev.19:20; 8:10,11) and the evil spirits using it (Rev.16:13,14; 12:15; 9:1,11)
For these deceived ones, God's winepress awaits (2Thess. 2:9,10,11,12).
Very soon, the Harlots who ride the Beast, will demand allegiance to themselves and their Beast. (not to Yhwh)[As of date of this edit (8/22/16), this is already noticeably fulfilled, as all who do not reflect full slavery, are being expelled by the "Gentile" elders/counterfeit priests -LINK1; LINK2]. They will use the beast they empower and control, to enforce this demand (Rev.13:12,15; 11:7).
The demand will be that all the "vine of the earth" worship an "image" (Ex.20:4,5; Psalm 78:58; Daniel 3:18; Isa.42:8) of the "Beast".
The False Prophet creates this "image/idol" of the Beast, giving it the breath of spirit-inspiration/image of being directed by God's spirit (Rev.13:14,15)(John 20:22); and telling all it's followers, to worship that "inspired" image. That Image and "spirit"/breath, is a lie
(Rev.16:13-14; 13:11,15; 1Tim. 4:1; 2Thess. 2:9-11)
(UPDATE: This is now already been fulfilled since time of publication of this Blog.)
How is this fulfilled?
The False Prophet (G.B.) teaches that the Organization it rides, is "spirit directed" and its parts, "spirit-appointed". This "image", is false. (Rev.13:15) (meaning: John 20:22)
These leaders demand that all their followers become "obedient slaves to" (worship) this "image", which they teach has divine properties, divine authority, divine powers to pass divine judgments (Rev.13:13). They demand that the thinking and power of all (forehead/hand), be enslaved to the Laws of the Organization of un-anointed "deputy rulers" (elders). (Rev.13:16-18; 9:3,7,9; Joel 2:1,4,2; Matt.24:21) (666) (the-greatest-tribulation-what/why?), rather than to the Laws of God (Deut.11:18)(Rev.13:16).
This false prophet knows, that if the "image" of this Organization is built up to divine stature and power (and IS worshiped as such)(LINK),
then the power that the G.B. exerts through that Beast/Organization, will be great enough to neutralize and "kill" their foes... the faithful witnesses of Christ (Rev.13:12,15; 11:7; Dan.12:7; Luke 21:24; Rev.11:2; 2Thess. 2:4; Mark 13:14)!
(They do not foresee that in the end, the very Beast which they empowered, will turn on them!) (Isa.47:7; Eze.23:22; 16:37; Rev.17:1,16-17)
To comply with worshiping "the Organization", as if it's image were divine, is an act of idolatry!
Any anointed ones in the Organization, who subject themselves into giving their worship to this "image" of a "spirit-directed organization", will be surrendering their future Kingdom inheritance (Rev.17:12,13). They turn their backs on the power and authority of their spirit anointment.
The G.B. is not asking us to worship the concrete individual elders, overseers, buildings and holdings. No. But in practice, the "elders" expect full obeisance. (LINK)
It is asking you to worship the "Image" of these, as a whole...the Image of the Organization,
as a manifestation of divinity... spirit directed, and spirit appointed.
Accordingly, the False Prophet is not asking us to worship the "beast". It asks us to worship the "Image of the Wild Beast" (Rev.13:14,15)... the image that as a whole, the Organization is divine, and deserves devotion.
Regardless of the claims made, Yhwh God exacts exclusive devotion! Nahum 1:2; Ex.20:5; Isa.40:25
Yhwh is not an organization! (Isa.40:25,26)
Have you come to worship the Image of the Organization, as if it were the manifestation of Yhwh God Himself (Isa.46:5)? Have you given over your thinking and service to it? Does your primary direction in life come from the doctrines it enforces, rather than from the Word of God? (2Tim. 3:16,17)
Have you replaced the worship due Yhwh alone, with worship of an Organization's "Image"?
THE CLAIMS THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS DIVINITY, and deserves to be worshiped as such, ARE FALSE!
Yhwh exacts exclusive devotion. Our allegiance and dedication is to Him personally, and to Him alone (Ex.20:5).
The faithful will not declare any sort of dedication, allegiance, loyalty, or worship to any powerful men, Gov. Body, or it's Organization. No matter what their deceptive claim, Yhwh alone is our God and Saviour (Isa.43:11; Jer.7:4,8).
" “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” Rev.14:7
No man is Yhwh the Creator. The faithful will reserve their devotion exclusively for Yhwh.
As a result, they will be expelled. It is likely that those who are prophesying against these powerful men....after their expulsion, they will be murdered in order to stop their public witnessing to the truth.
What truth?
That these self-glorified men have only acted in self-interest; and not in the interests of pure worship or care of the flock. (LINK: Jeremiah,ch.7)
(UPDATE: This is now already been fulfilled since time of publication of this Blog.)
How is this fulfilled?
The False Prophet (G.B.) teaches that the Organization it rides, is "spirit directed" and its parts, "spirit-appointed". This "image", is false. (Rev.13:15) (meaning: John 20:22)
These leaders demand that all their followers become "obedient slaves to" (worship) this "image", which they teach has divine properties, divine authority, divine powers to pass divine judgments (Rev.13:13). They demand that the thinking and power of all (forehead/hand), be enslaved to the Laws of the Organization of un-anointed "deputy rulers" (elders). (Rev.13:16-18; 9:3,7,9; Joel 2:1,4,2; Matt.24:21) (666) (the-greatest-tribulation-what/why?), rather than to the Laws of God (Deut.11:18)(Rev.13:16).
This false prophet knows, that if the "image" of this Organization is built up to divine stature and power (and IS worshiped as such)(LINK),
then the power that the G.B. exerts through that Beast/Organization, will be great enough to neutralize and "kill" their foes... the faithful witnesses of Christ (Rev.13:12,15; 11:7; Dan.12:7; Luke 21:24; Rev.11:2; 2Thess. 2:4; Mark 13:14)!
(They do not foresee that in the end, the very Beast which they empowered, will turn on them!) (Isa.47:7; Eze.23:22; 16:37; Rev.17:1,16-17)
To comply with worshiping "the Organization", as if it's image were divine, is an act of idolatry!
Any anointed ones in the Organization, who subject themselves into giving their worship to this "image" of a "spirit-directed organization", will be surrendering their future Kingdom inheritance (Rev.17:12,13). They turn their backs on the power and authority of their spirit anointment.
The G.B. is not asking us to worship the concrete individual elders, overseers, buildings and holdings. No. But in practice, the "elders" expect full obeisance. (LINK)
It is asking you to worship the "Image" of these, as a whole...the Image of the Organization,
as a manifestation of divinity... spirit directed, and spirit appointed.
Accordingly, the False Prophet is not asking us to worship the "beast". It asks us to worship the "Image of the Wild Beast" (Rev.13:14,15)... the image that as a whole, the Organization is divine, and deserves devotion.
Regardless of the claims made, Yhwh God exacts exclusive devotion! Nahum 1:2; Ex.20:5; Isa.40:25
Yhwh is not an organization! (Isa.40:25,26)
Have you come to worship the Image of the Organization, as if it were the manifestation of Yhwh God Himself (Isa.46:5)? Have you given over your thinking and service to it? Does your primary direction in life come from the doctrines it enforces, rather than from the Word of God? (2Tim. 3:16,17)
Have you replaced the worship due Yhwh alone, with worship of an Organization's "Image"?
THE CLAIMS THAT THE ORGANIZATION HAS DIVINITY, and deserves to be worshiped as such, ARE FALSE!
Yhwh exacts exclusive devotion. Our allegiance and dedication is to Him personally, and to Him alone (Ex.20:5).
The faithful will not declare any sort of dedication, allegiance, loyalty, or worship to any powerful men, Gov. Body, or it's Organization. No matter what their deceptive claim, Yhwh alone is our God and Saviour (Isa.43:11; Jer.7:4,8).
" “FEAR God and give him glory, because the hour of the judgment by him has arrived, and so worship the One who made the heaven and the earth and sea and fountains of waters.” Rev.14:7
No man is Yhwh the Creator. The faithful will reserve their devotion exclusively for Yhwh.
As a result, they will be expelled. It is likely that those who are prophesying against these powerful men....after their expulsion, they will be murdered in order to stop their public witnessing to the truth.
What truth?
That these self-glorified men have only acted in self-interest; and not in the interests of pure worship or care of the flock. (LINK: Jeremiah,ch.7)
They have not taught Yhwh's people truth, nor given the "proper food at the proper time" (Jer.8:11,12; Matt.24:48,49,50,51). They have hated their fellow anointed brothers, taught falsehoods, and have prostituted themselves for power in this system of things (1John 4:20). They have appointed their own priests for themselves, who obey and follow them (2Chron. 13:9). They have rejected the anointed priests that Jehovah himself has chosen to serve for him, and replaced them with Elders who are spiritual "Gentiles" (Mark 13:14; Eze.44:6-9). They are drunk with power (Luke 12:45; Isa.29:9; 28:7; Micah 2:11), and have become drunk with the blood of the Holy Ones.
("Abomination of Desolation") (trample-how?) (tails-stingers-scorpions) (disgusting-thing)
When you are faced with this demand for allegiance, what will you do? Will you submit out of fear of man? Or will you act like Daniel's three companions on the plain of Dura (Dan.3:1-7,16-20)?
Will you share in scorning and abandoning those faithful and loyal to Yhwh alone?
How you treat the least of Christ's brothers will determine your own judgement. (Matt.25:35,40,45,46)
Take heed...at Rev.11:10, we are told that very few will refuse to rejoice, when God's true witnesses are "killed" (Rev.11:7,10).
How you react to this test of loyalty, and how you treat those who remain loyal, will determine your standing before God.
This test is imminent!
(UPDATE: This test is already well underway.)
"4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOUdo not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. " Rev.18:4,5
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You as reader, may feel some confusion when you see me refer to the "Harlots". Many have come to think of "Babylon the Great" as a single Harlot. Yet, note what the scripture actually says:
And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” Rev.17:5
So we see that the symbol of Babylon the Great is a single woman, yet her daughters who serve her, are harlots.
I plan on writing my next article on the symbolic figures found in Revelation, so that it's symbolism, interpretation, and application can be discerned more clearly. In the meantime, please go to the home page (link below) and use the search box, and type in the symbolic figure you wish to study.
Those interested can begin with this link:
the woman in Rev. chapter 12.
LINK TO HOME
BACK TO DIRECTORY
("Abomination of Desolation") (trample-how?) (tails-stingers-scorpions) (disgusting-thing)
When you are faced with this demand for allegiance, what will you do? Will you submit out of fear of man? Or will you act like Daniel's three companions on the plain of Dura (Dan.3:1-7,16-20)?
Will you share in scorning and abandoning those faithful and loyal to Yhwh alone?
How you treat the least of Christ's brothers will determine your own judgement. (Matt.25:35,40,45,46)
Take heed...at Rev.11:10, we are told that very few will refuse to rejoice, when God's true witnesses are "killed" (Rev.11:7,10).
How you react to this test of loyalty, and how you treat those who remain loyal, will determine your standing before God.
This test is imminent!
(UPDATE: This test is already well underway.)
"4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOUdo not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. " Rev.18:4,5
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You as reader, may feel some confusion when you see me refer to the "Harlots". Many have come to think of "Babylon the Great" as a single Harlot. Yet, note what the scripture actually says:
And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.” Rev.17:5
So we see that the symbol of Babylon the Great is a single woman, yet her daughters who serve her, are harlots.
I plan on writing my next article on the symbolic figures found in Revelation, so that it's symbolism, interpretation, and application can be discerned more clearly. In the meantime, please go to the home page (link below) and use the search box, and type in the symbolic figure you wish to study.
Those interested can begin with this link:
the woman in Rev. chapter 12.
LINK TO HOME
BACK TO DIRECTORY
WOW! May I say you've been given a revelation just like Daniel, Ezekiel, and John had the privilege of receiving? Though it seems so ugly, harsh, and horrid to picture and comprehend what you've been given to share, it makes loving sense that everyone - anointed and the unanointed - to prepare for Jehovah's wrath. The more you and other chosen ones are willing and wanting to come forth, the more of the sheeple should come to terms with what is ahead. Thank you, Pearl, I sooooo look forward to Jehovah's continuation with you!
ReplyDeleteReally, all I saw is already contained within the scriptures.
ReplyDeleteYet, the vision aids in the interpretation of the scriptures, and how the scriptures apply for our time.
I am reminded of how Daniel was told to "seal up the words until the time of the end". It therefore makes sense, that although the scriptures are already written, the understanding is for the time appointed by God.
I'm ciurious to what you have found shocking, you now have my attention...
ReplyDeleteIt is shocking that the Society changed the meaning of the two different Greek words for "ripe" to fit the interpretation that suited them. This is explained in the article. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteHave you asked the brothers from bethel as to why they changed the meaning as you say?
ReplyDeleteYes, and I received a response from the Governing Body themselves, which was who I addressed my letter to.
ReplyDeleteTheir response was firm directive to be in harmony with their doctrines, scriptural or not.
The alternative?
Disfellowshipping...which has already occurred for me.
John8:47 reads:
"He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”
So why dont you explain what is meant by you being YANKED by the hair from the line of people, when a faithful Angel was assigned to look after the job?
ReplyDeleteYou dont have an answer because Christ HAS NOT TOLD YOU.
You were INVITED to be His prophet, and because you would circumcise your heart, prophetic understanding is not given you.
Just as many of the people in the line did not listen to your preaching, YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO CHRIST.
THERE IS A WARNING IN THAT VISION DIRECTED AT YOU, and for many years you refuse to listen to Him!!
Are you going to be humble as you tell everyone else to be?
First, God is the source of prophetic vision (Num.24:16; 12:6; Eze.8:3). It is not up to me to explain what is meant by what happened in a vision from God. It is up to God Himself to explain the things I was shown, and for this reason, I always seek the true interpretation in His Word (Gen.40:8).
DeleteWhen I search the scriptures for what is meant by being yanked up by the hair, I can only find Eze.8:3. We learn a lot about why that happens to this prophet, by seeing what the circumstances were in God's land, which Ezekiel was in the middle of. Ezekiel was also yanked up by the hair of his head... taken by God's spirit to be shown the pervasive idolatry among his people.
As I was yanked up, I was told, "You are no longer allowed to be in this place!". I was told this when I protested being removed, due to my sense of urgency to save those destined for the winepress. Apparently, and in harmony with other prophecies, we must be separated from the sinful nation with haste (Matt.24:15-16; Mark 13:14; Rev.18:4; Jer.51:6).
At Rev.11:8, Jesus tells us that the faithful prophets are sentenced to death in apostate Jerusalem ("where Jesus was also impaled" -Luke13:33). But Jesus also tells us that in a symbolic and spiritual sense, that same city resembles Sodom and Egypt (Jer.23:14; Isa.3:9). Both of those locations were cities that God's people were told to flee from (Gen.19:16-17; Ex.12:39,42) and the warning to flee was urgent and abrupt, just as it is today (Luke 17:28-29,30-31,32-33). Based upon scripture, I understand the reason for my being pulled up by the hair.
Since Jesus is the Logos... the Word of God, I am certain that this answer is from him, since my interpretation is from scripture.
Now about being "invited to be a prophet"... there is no such thing.
No one CHOSEN/anointed, is invited. God's calling is irrevocable (Rom.11:29). The progression of all anointed to end up faithful, is Called, Chosen, Faithful (Rev.17:14). It is not an invitation that can be turned down graciously. I suspect that you are confused with the context of being "invited to the marriage feast", at Matt.22:9-10. I'll leave you a link at the end of this comment, if you'd like scriptures to help you with your confusion.
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Now about not circumcising my own heart... or the idea that prophetic insight comes as a result of that personal initiative.
Our circumcision of heart is done by Christ (Col.2:11NIV ). That circumcision of the heart is obviously spiritual, occurring when we are anointed (Rom.2:29; 5:5; Luke 4:18; John20:21; 1John2:27). Yet not all anointed (circumcised) are prophets (1Cor.12:4-6,7-9,10-11,14,17-18,19-20,28-29; Eph.2:20-22; 1Pet.2:5), and so the circumcision/anointing has little to do with receiving prophetic insight. If you are a prophet, that which makes you so, is the receiving of vision (Num.12:6).
The reason why those on the winepress line do not listen to Christ, he explains to us (Matt.13:11-13,14-16; 2Thess.2:9-10,11-12). I'm curious how you have come to believe that I am not listening to Christ. In everything I offer, I seek out the scriptures. Jesus is the personification of all God's Words, and he guides me in all my work (John12:49-50; 7:16-18; Matt.10:27).
Of course, if you want to offer me scriptures to back up your assertions, I'd gladly listen to them (John8:47). I am eager to be humble toward the scriptures, but not so much a confused human.
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